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Joshua Finn

Mini Wisp

145

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Notes: Ok, so I made a few flights with my Mini-Wisp today. Rather than just show you one flight time, let's show that it's reliable, too!

127, 130, 145

Yes, that's over two minutes on three separate flights. I could get longer, but that would require some right rudder which would cause it to start turning right towards the end of the climb. I could afford that in a larger site, but this one's pretty narrow and would risk loosing it to the walls. The plane's only climbing about 15' up, and that's under a 30' ceiling, so I know I'm loosing a lot of flight time. The model buzzes around at eye level for about 30 sec before climbing away. I'd say that's 20' of altitude being wasted.

Jun comments : Fabulous flights, Joshua, congrats. These were presumably in the 3" class, so you've extended your own 3" record. A couple of things bout your flight pattern puzzle me. (1) Why would you think about adding right rudder, which is of course the oposite of the usual indoor trim? Is it to open up the turn toward the end of the flight? (2) Why would the plane buzz around at eye level for quite a while before climbing? You'd expect the launching torque to shoot the model up vertically (and sometimes aerobatically), which is the usual flight pattern with very small indoor models.

Jun, I'm using a single-hole bearing, so I have to use the flight surfaces and CG for all flight trim. The plane assumes a VERY steep left bank during the power burst, so it won't climb. The only way to fix this is with opposite rudder (washin doesn't help...has been known to cause aerobatics, even). If I ever get the motivation to build a new one, I'll make some changes, including a double-hole bearing, so that these trim problems will go away. All things considered, it's really an easy plane to fly. It's just that I like to use full power.

Good flying,
Joshua Finn

INDOOR 3inch Heli

INDOOR 3inch Orni

BEST SCORE JOSHUA FINN Mini 10 316
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Joshua Finn notes: For optimum performance of the 'Mini-10' cabin use a 5-6" folding prop. The fuselage on this design is really a bit to narrow. The motor tends to bang around in there far too much. Very long flights are possible, even in dead air. Max time appears to be around 2:30-3:00. Jim Moseley's model is much more practical and reliable. The Mini-10's downfall is the fact that it is a very twitchy model. It's also a bit overbuilt. Jim's model is more consistent and requires less power. Blown up to a larger size, the Mini-10 would probably be much better.

BEST SINGLE FLIGHT JIM MOSELEY TenSpot 377
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Entrant Times (Best) Score

07/31 Joshua Finn, Mini 10 19, (38), 22, 21, 32 75
08/16 Joshua Finn, Mini 10 34, 20, 27, 30, (40) 91
11/18 Joshua Finn, Mini 10 49, 68, 70, 78, (78) 216
12/17 Jun Katigbak, Baby Baby Speckled Bird 37, 38, 42, 41, (43) 121
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01/16 Joshua Finn, Mini 10 97, 72, 72, 147, (219) 316
06/11 Jim Moseley, TenSpot 88, 90, 96, 102, (122) 287
06/30 Jim Moseley, TenSpot 377, 0, 0, 0, 0

10" OUTDOOR Profile

BEST SCORE JUN KATIGBAK Profile Pussycat 112
BEST SINGLE FLIGHT JUN KATIGBAK Profile Pussycat 56
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Entrant Times (Best) Score

09/13 Jun Katigbak, Profile Pussycat 10 20, 28, 35, 47, (56) 112
10/02 Rolf Christophersen, Skinny Mini 21.56, 26.57, 28.37, (35.03), 34.90 88.94
10/07 Rolf Christophersen, Skinny Mini 35.36, 21.25, 36.81, (37.31), 36.57 108.74

10" OUTDOOR Stick

BEST SCORE ANDY MITAS TenStick 280
BEST SINGLE FLIGHT ANDY MITAS TenStick 150
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Andy Mitas notes: The 'Ten Stick' uses flying surfaces from a Peck ROG, with a standard indoor airfoil (about 7%). All flying surfaces are 1/16" square. Fuselage is 1/8" x 3/16" and tapered behind the hook. It is about 2 inches longer than the original ROG fuselage. I made trim tabs for the stabilizer from bits of tracing paper. Covering is condenser paper. The prop is 6" Ikara and would have worked better with about 2 degrees of downthrust.

Entrant Times (Best) Score

07/20 Neil Dennis, Dennydart 19, 20, 22, (29), 19 61
07/25 Neil Dennis, Stubbydart 42, (53), 40, 42, 51 135
07/29 Ondrej (Andy) Mitas, Peck ROG biplane 18, 9, 19, (26), 16 53
07/29 Chris Phillips, Peck ROG 11, 11, (22), 22, 7 44
07/31 Jun Katigbak, Yard Bird 33, 68, 64, 59, (69) 185
08/04 Neil Dennis, Stubbydart 51, 53, 58, 58, (61) 169
08/05 Ondrej (Andy) Mitas, Peck ROG 17, 17, 18, 19, (25) 54
08/11 Ondrej (Andy) Mitas, Stringless Wonder 17, 23, (42), 30, 37 90
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08/14 Chris Phillips, Peck ROG 17, 19, (38), 32, 22 73
08/24 Neil Dennis, Mightymouse II 40, 45, 51, 53, (58) 149
08/25 Chris Phillips, Peck ROG 40, 47, 47, 48, (51) 102
12/15 Joshua Finn, Duplex 10 80, 31, 52, (101), 63 195

Joshua Finn notes: The 'Duplex 10' is nothing more than a Duplex 8 with a larger wing. The chord was kept the same. The model worked better with a larger stab, though. It flew quite well, but didn't like wind. It was covered with c-paper.

06/12 Ondrej (Andy) Mitas, Modified Peck ROG 42, (83), 60, 58, 46 164
06/16 Ondrej (Andy) Mitas, Modified Peck ROG (80), 53, 69, 71, 51 193
06/21 Ondrej (Andy) Mitas, TenStick 68, 126, 73, (150), 81 280

8" OUTDOOR Cabin

BEST SCORE JOSHUA FINN Triangle 8 55
BEST SINGLE FLIGHT JOSHUA FINN Triangle 8 30
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Joshua Finn notes: The 'Triangle 8' is a great flyer. The first used a tissue-coverd fuse and a 4" carved prop. but I lost it during testing when it flew over a building. When I lost sight of it, it was about 30 feet up and had been aloft for 40 sec. The replacement was the same expect for a c-paper covered fuse and a smaller prop. Neither of these changes improved performance. If anything, they reduced performance. The c-paper didn't add enough stiffness to the fuse, and the prop required really small rubber. I think the best flight was around 1:20. The model is very capable, but could definitely be improved upon.

Entrant Times (Best) Score

08/02 Joshua Finn, Triangle 8 13, 18, (30), 24, 7 55
08/08 Ondrej (Andy) Mitas, Turbo Porter 10, (19), 14, 17, 15 46
12/16 Ondrej (Andy) Mitas, P-39 Airacobra 21, 7, 9, (24), 18 48

8" OUTDOOR Profile

BEST SCORE JUN KATIGBAK TenSpot 178
BEST SINGLE FLIGHT JUN KATIGBAK TenSpot 76
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Entrant Times (Best) Score

09/07 Jun Katigbak, Profile Pussycat 8 23, (59), 33, 36, 41 110
10/05 Jun Katigbak, Profile Pussycat 8 35, 31, 46, 41, (50) 122
02/07 Jun Katigbak, Mosley Ten Spot 42, (76), 51, 59, 68 178

8" OUTDOOR Stick

BEST SCORE JUN KATIGBAK Ikara Junior/ Butterfly 386
BEST SINGLE FLIGHT JUN KATIGBAK Ikara Junior/ Butterfly 376
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Entrant Times (Best) Score

07/28 Neil Dennis, Mightymouse 19, 20, 20, 21, (22) 61
07/31 Jun Katigbak, Quasi 8 (44), 22, 22, 33, 40 95
08/03 Jun Katigbak, Quasi 8 38, 50, 59, (60), 45 154
08/15 Joshua Finn, Unnamed OD 23, (24), 16, 21, 20 64
08/19 Neil Dennis, Mightymouse 33, 35, 38, 45, (48) 118
08/20 Rolf Christophersen, Easy Mini 8R 12.9, 16.3, 16.9, (17.4), 11.6 46.1
08/21 Rolf Christophersen, Easy Mini 8R 14.2, 21.4, 24.9, 22.6, (31.6) 68.9
08/24 Rolf Christophersen, Easy Mini 8R 23.1, (37.4), 29.3, 34.8, 30.4 94.5
08/29 Rolf Christophersen, Big Eight Micro 44.13, 11.56, (44.34), 23.75, 96.66
10/03 Joshua Finn, Duplex 8 Stick 42, 67, 85, (87), 0 194

Joshua Finn notes: The Duplex 8 stick flew very nicely and rock-solid stable. It actually flew better than the 10" version. I lost two of them to trees.

Motorstick: 6" long, 3/32x1/8" (better would have been 1/16"x3/32"); Tailboom: 4" long, 1/16"x3/32" tapered to 1/16"x1/32" (better would have been 1/16" sq. tapered to 1/16"x1/32"); Wing: 2.5"x8" spars 1/16"x1/32" ribs 1/16"x1/32" posts 1/16" sq. .75" long LE 1.75" back from motorstick front; Stab: 5.5"x1.25" all parts 1/32"x1/32" (a better stab would be 6"x1.5"); Rudder: mounted on under side of boom 1.125" root chord, .75" tip chord, 1" tall all parts 1/32 sq.; Prop: 1/16 sq spar 1.5" dia blades from 1/40" balsa. total dia: 4.5". All wire parts .020 music wire. The model was coverd with c-paper and powered with one strand of 1/16" tanII.

10/07 Rolf Christophersen, Big Eight 20.81, (29.62), 27.10, 29.90, 26.44 81.44
12/26 Jun Katigbak, Ikara Junior 61, 112, 159, 115, (376) 386

6" OUTDOOR Cabin

BEST SCORE JOSHUA FINN Triangle 6 Duplex 111
BEST SINGLE FLIGHT JOSHUA FINN Triangle 6 Duplex 54
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Joshua Finn notes: The 'Triangle 6 Duplex' was simply a 'Triangle 8' with a 6" wing. The spars were 1/16"x1/32".

Entrant Times (Best) Score

08/21 Joshua Finn, Triangle 6 Duplex (19), 5, 16, 17, 17 50
09/16 Joshua Finn, Triangle 6 Duplex 47, 12, 25, (54), 39 111
03/01 Ondrej (Andy) Mitas, Robertson Skylark (21), 11, 17, 14, 16 47
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03/02 Ondrej (Andy) Mitas, Robertson Skylark 25, 19, 25, 6, (29) 69
07/04 Joshua Finn, Triangle 6 Mark II 14, (53), 37, 26, 33 96

6" OUTDOOR Profile

BEST SCORE ROLF CHRISTOPHERSEN Micro 6 Skinnycat 45
BEST SINGLE FLIGHT ROLF CHRISTOPHERSEN Micro 6 Skinnycat 23
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Rolf Christophersen notes: I built most of my little TRUMPers from the Chuck Marcos design of the CLG 'Easy Mini' crossed with Jun's 'Skinny Cat' p1, p2] (variation on the Dick Baxter 'Big Pussycat'), the best stick body I have ever made. It just climbs, will not stall, and ROGs like a champ. Mine was set up with a mylar, free wheeling prop. I made a cabin fuselage, a profile, and stick body, all rubber power versions of the glider/profile cross. Some of these are posted in my TRUMP photo album.

08/13 Rolf Christophersen, Micro 6 Skinnycat 10, 8, (23), 16, 17 43
08/13 Rolf Christophersen, Micro 6 Skinnycat 16, 15, 13, (21), 14 45

6" OUTDOOR Stick

BEST SCORE JOSHUA FINN Duplex 6 Stick 208
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Joshua Finn notes: The 'Duplex 6 stick' was again simply a 'Duplex 8' with a 6" wing. All wood sizes the same.

BEST SINGLE FLIGHT ANDY MITAS Top Hat 80
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Entrant Times (Best) Score

08/10 Jun Katigbak, Dashtray 6 (54), 27, 39, 30, 45 114
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08/10 Jun Katigbak, Postal Box 25, 36, (42), 17, 28 89
09/20 Ondrej (Andy) Mitas, Top Hat 30, (80), 30, 34, 30 94
12/11 Joshua Finn, Duplex 6 Stick 47, 61, 76, (77), 71 208

6" INDOOR (HOUSEFLY)

BEST SCORE ALEJANDRO GARCIA Casi Quasi 460
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BEST SINGLE FLIGHT ALAN COHEN Micro Stick 510
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Entrant Times (Best) Score

07/29 Al Yuhasz, 6 Big Pussycat 99, 93, 89, (104), 100 292
07/30 Joshua Finn, Wisp 82, 55, (98), 38, 96 233
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Joshua Finn notes: The The data on this one is in the files section. It was a pretty good flyer. Best flight was over three minutes under a 25' ceiling. Weight couldn't have been more than .15 gram, maybe half that. My scale wouldn't weigh it. I'll try to write something up on the Mini Wisp later. It's not a really stable plane. The prop needs some work.

08/01 Alejandro Garcia, Casi Quasi (163), 154, 156, 150, 135 460
08/01 Joshua Finn, Wisp (141), 111, 130, 139, 123 392
08/07 Alejandro Garcia, House Fly 72, 58, 68, 60, (74) 200
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08/21 Rob Romash, 4 OD (183), 0, 0, 0, 0 0
08/27 Alan Cohen, 5 Micro Stick (510), 0, 0, 0, 0 0
09/20 Ondrej (Andy) Mitas, Top Hat 30, (80), 30, 34, 30 94

3" INDOOR (MATCHBOX)

BEST SCORE CHRIS DOUGHTY OD Biplane 297.9
BEST SINGLE FLIGHT CHRIS DOUGHTY OD Biplane 104.7
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Entrant Times (Best) Score

08/11 Jun Katigbak, Yard Bird Biplane 12, 19, (21), 15, 16 50
08/15 Alejandro Garcia, Unnamed OD 22, (30), 25, 20, 25 71
10/11 Chris Doughty, OD Ornithopter (13.65), 13.35, 13.46. 12.21, 12.82 39.63
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10/20 Chris Doughty, OD Ornithopter 30.8, 8.5, 31.1, (32.6), 29.1 91.0
10/20 Chris Doughty, OD Biplane 100.7, 96.9, 83.6, 100.3, (104.7) 297.9
11/02 Joshua Finn, Mini-wisp 37, (40), 35, 6, 16 88
11/02 Joshua Finn, Mini-wisp 59, 56, 54, (66), 61 176
11/20 Billy Stiltner, OD Matchbox Model (69), 40, 36, 0, 0 76
02/26 Billy Stiltner, OD Matchbox Model (50), 0, 0, 0, 0 0